Jane and Thomas Chatterton Williams talk about mixed-race identity, race and racism, and what being biracial means now. Resources: "My Family's Life Inside and Outside America's Racial Categories" by Thomas Chatterton Williams, NYT "A Detailed Look at the Downside of California’s Ban on Affirmative Action" by Kevin Carey, NYT "Thomas Chatterton Williams on Race, Identity, and “Cancel Culture”" by Isaac Chotiner, NYT "The Great Escape From Slavery of Ellen and William Craft" by Marian Smith Holmes, Smithsonian Magazine "Black With (Some) White Privilege" by Anna Holmes, NYT "Still Processing: Being Biracial" by Wesley Morris and Jenna Wortham, NYT "The Case for Reparations" by Ta-Nehisi Coates, The Atlantic Guest: Thomas Chatterton Williams (@thomaschattwill), Contributing Writer at New York Magazine, Columnist at Harpers Magazine Host: Jane Coaston (@cjane87), Senior Politics Reporter, Vox Credits: Jeff Geld, (@jeff_geld), Editor and Producer The Weeds is a Vox Media Podcast Network production Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts About Vox Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Facebook group: The Weeds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices