Today I share my conversation with author Austin Kleon. I caught Austin as he was about to embark on his book tour. Our conversation was honest, fun, and I hope, useful. We talk about: The tug of war between art and commerce. The ups and downs of going on a book tour Staying creative despite demoralizing times How George Clooney's movie role selection connects to creative life How Austin would change public education And much more. Subscribe to Austin's Newsletter Buy one of Austin's Books As always, thanks for listening! --JF