Rob and Britta discuss a ten year old story from This American Life called "The Problem We All Live With" produced by Chana Joffe-Walt and reported by Nikole Hannah-Jones. It's an example of the kind of documentary journalism we need more than ever, in a world where such journalism is increasingly under threat. Show Notes: TAL Episode 562: The Problem We all Live With Longform Podast interview with Nikole Hannah-Jones Third Coast Audio Festival Session: Make Them Care Saint Louis Public Radio's coverage of the Francis Howell town meeting "Choosing a School for My Daughter in a Segregated City" by Nikole Hannah-Jones Music - Blue Dot Sessions