I had a lot of fun chatting with Shane Legg - Founder and Chief AGI Scientist, Google DeepMind! We discuss: * Why he expects AGI around 2028 * How to align superhuman models * What new architectures needed for AGI * Has Deepmind sped up capabilities or safety more? * Why multimodality will be next big landmark * and much more Watch full episode on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast platform. Read full transcript here. Timestamps (0:00:00) - Measuring AGI (0:11:41) - Do we need new architectures? (0:16:26) - Is search needed for creativity? (0:19:19) - Superhuman alignment (0:29:58) - Impact of Deepmind on safety vs capabilities (0:34:03) - Timelines (0:41:24) - Multimodality Get full access to Dwarkesh Podcast at www.dwarkeshpatel.com/subscribe