Zachary Treitz and Christian Hansen, creators of the Netflix series The Octopus Murders, join me to discuss their multi-year investigation into this vast conspiracy and the mysterious deaths surrounding it, including the journalist who was originally uncovering it, Danny Casolaro. I wanted to ask them what it was like to immerse themselves in such a complex mystery and how they managed to stay sane and grounded throughout the process. I also speak with Christian about his own personal paranormal experiences. To hear the full episode, sign up for the Otherworld Patreon To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices