Why do we feel so weird when robots look a little too much like humans? How have artists navigated the uncanny valley - whether narrowly avoiding it or intentionally plunging into the psychological trench? Ellen & guest, science communicator Tom Lum, ride the zombie train right into the uncanny valley. Links: Follow Tom on TikTok, Instagram and YouTube! Follow Ellen on TikTok! Follow Spellbound and Gagged on Instagram! Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/doug-organ/snake-oil License code: P8DTLVUL1FZUMREF