Today on THE ROCK FIGHT (an outdoor podcast that aims for the head) we're digging into how the brands of the outdoor industry talks about sustainability. Chris Goddard is the founder of CGPR, a PR agency that works with outdoor brands like Houdini, Lowa and Nite Ize. Chris recently posted on LinkedIn an article about Patagonia's new marketing campaign Fashion Is None Of Our Business which promptly blew up. The engagement on that post was off the charts with many supporting Patagonia's new messaging and many detractors calling the brand out. Today Colin sits down with Chris to talk about how brands engage on a topic like sustainability and how those on the messaging side need to approach working with brands on sensitive topics. Head to www.rockfight.co and sign up for News From the Front, Rock Fight's weekly newsletter! Please follow and subscribe to THE ROCK FIGHT and give us a 5 star rating wherever you get your podcasts. Have a question or comment for a future mailbag episode? Send it to myrockfight@gmail.com or send a message on Instagram or Threads. Subscribe to Adventure Journal to get more Justin Housman in your life. Check out Long Weekend Coffee for the best cup of coffee for your next adventure. Be sure to enter promo code 'rock10' at checkout to receive 10% off of your first order. Thanks for listening! THE ROCK FIGHT is a production of Rock Fight, LLC.