The twists and turns of politics are often not far behind when speaking to elected politicians. The episode was recorded last week, and yet and within hours of the edit being finalised, there was some breaking news about Mr Gething. So here’s the context which we acknowledge: Vaughan Gething accepted over £200,000s in campaign donations from a controversial waste company, Dauson Environmental Group - whose director was convicted of environmental offences. Former First Minister of Wales Mark Drakeford conducted an internal investigation, which in February 2024 concluded that Vaughan Gething’s actions did NOT breach the ministerial code. However, on 22 April 2024, the leaders of Plaid Cymru and the Welsh Conservative Senedd appear to be dissatisfied with that investigation and have now called for new investigation – which should be independent. Gething immediately ruled that out the next day, insisting that there was no conflict of interest. For more detail, read up here https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/vaughan-gething-first-minister-welsh-welsh-conservatives-carwyn-jones-b2533390.html https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clm3gev0vl2o https://www.gov.wales/first-minister-vaughan-gething-announces-new-welsh-government-cabinet And join our Crowdfunder, if you feel you can: https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/the-trouble-with-politics-podcast/contact#start