In this conversation, Brian and Maciek Palmowski discuss the evolution of content management systems, focusing on WordPress and its community. Maciek shares his experiences with other CMSs like Astro and Statamic, highlighting their unique features and user experiences. They explore the impact of no-code solutions, the importance of community dynamics, and the future of WordPress in a rapidly changing digital landscape. The discussion also touches on the integration of AI in CMSs and the evaluation of different tools for various needs. Links Maciek's Website - https://maciekpalmowski.dev/ Maciak's Review of Drupal CMS - https://maciekpalmowski.dev/blog/trying-out-drupal-cms-10/ Astro - https://astro.build/ Statamic - https://statamic.com/ Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Maciek and PatchStack 02:33 Exploring Other CMSs and Their Impact on WordPress 05:02 The Unique Community of WordPress 07:38 User Experience in Open Source vs. SaaS Products 10:05 Diving into Astro and Statamic 12:55 Astro's Content Management Features 15:36 Drupal CMS: A New Perspective 18:13 AI Integration in Drupal CMS 24:32 AI Integration in CMS: A Game Changer 27:45 Evaluating CMS Options: Finding the Right Fit 31:05 Static vs Dynamic Websites: The Jamstack Movement 34:39 Exploring Modern CMS Tools: Beyond WordPress 39:14 The Evolution of Themes: Portability Challenges 44:53 Conclusion: Embracing New CMS Possibilities